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Power Supply Design, Group Regulation, and Vintage Computers

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Vintage computer power supplies will eventually grow old and die. Instead of rebuilding them, many people are opting to replace them with a PC-standard ATX power supply and a physical adapter to fit the vintage machine, similar to the ATX to Macintosh 10-pin adapters I recently discussed here. But this creates a potential problem that I hadn’t originally considered: group regulation of the output voltages causing some rails to go out of spec.

I’m trying to replace a Macintosh IIci/IIcx power supply, as shown in the photo above. With the help of a friend, I replaced it with this Logisys ATX PSU, and at first all seemed fine. But then I did some load tests in the Macintosh IIcx, adding more and more cards and peripherals while measuring the 5V and 12V supply regulation. The initial setup was a IIcx using the Logisys PSU, with 20MB RAM, no hard drives or floppy drives, no keyboard or mouse, no cards, and no ROM SIMM. I measured voltages at the empty hard drive power connector.

  • initial readings: 4.932, 12.294
  • +1 ethernet card, 1 ADB keyboard, 1 ADB trackball: 4.895, 12.302
  • +1 Toby video card: 4.824, 12.327
  • +1 Apple Hi-Resolution Display Card: 4.779, 12.340
  • +2 BMOW Floppy Emus (internal and external): 4.763, 12.343
  • +1 Zulu SCSI using term power: 4.742, 12.338
  • +1 BMOW Wombat with attached USB hub, USB keyboard, USB mouse: 4.729, 12.343
  • +1 12V fan rated 0.77W: 4.734, 12.325

Bolded values are out of spec. The additional load I was adding was all on the 5V supply, whose voltage kept sinking lower and lower while the mostly-unloaded 12V supply kept climbing higher. This is exactly what you’d expect from a PSU that uses group regulation, where all of the outputs are regulated using a single combined error feedback mechanism, instead of each output being independently regulated.

In the case of many common cheaper ATX PSUs, they are group regulated based on the combined error in the 5V and 12V outputs. In a severe cross-loading situation with lots of 5V load and minimal 12V load, the PSU is trying to split the difference by making 5V too low and 12V too high, which causes 5V to go out of spec. Adding a fan to create a small load on 12V helped a tiny bit. But extrapolating from that one fan, I’d need to add 41W of load on 12V to bring the 5V supply all the way up to where it should be.

The original stock PSU in the Macintosh IIcx and similar computers did not suffer this problem, and was presumably independently regulated. So what is the aspiring vintage computer PSU rebuilder to do here?

  • Buy a much more expensive ATX PSU that is not group regulated, and that can supply enough amps on its 5V output (minimum 15A), and is small enough to fit the small physical dimensions inside the IIcx PSU enclosure. Finding options that tick all the boxes is difficult, and these may cost $100 or more. Most modern ATX PSUs can not supply enough current on their 5V output.

  • Add a 12V dummy load using power resistors, something on the order of 10 to 40 Watts, to reduce the cross-loading between the 5V and 12V outputs. But what level of dummy load is correct? And what about the extra heat that will be generated?

  • Design a custom PSU solution using a commercial 12V regulated supply plus a separate high-power buck converter for 5V, and another converter for -12V, and also something for 5V trickle and soft power like ATX’s PS_ON input.

  • Something else clever that you may suggest.

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